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oldschool
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Joined: June 19 2008 Posts: 20 |
![]() Topic: This Place is still the same old BLAH BLAH BLAH!Posted: September 19 2008 at 6:09pm |
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Has anyone figured out how to take back the industry? Remember the movement of the "REAL FLORIST"? or Wire Service Free? Flower Crap.con?
Lot's of talk with little or no action for sure....
This industry is worse today in 2008 than 2000 with more and more sellers of flowers than people who can make a difference.
The SAF'S and the Likes have sold out to big name Organations with cash flow. Fluff conventions and good feelings for all who attend.
I never could understand why Florists in the same town they operated in could not come to terms with each other and take back there own turf? GREED? PIG HEAD Mentality? or just plain stupid?
BLAH BLAH BLAH.......Were all guilty!
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Sandy
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Joined: April 16 2008 Location: United States Posts: 246 |
![]() Posted: September 20 2008 at 4:45am |
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I had a local person call me the other day ... to get an address for someone we both know, also local. she said she planned to send him a fruit basket. I didn't ask who with because I figured it was not my business, we have 2 other shops in town. She volunteered to me that she was sending it by 1-800. I told her that there was NOT a 1-800 florist anywhere close (there is not) and she said "oh they deliver anywhere".
Because of how all of the wire services advertise, people honestly think these places are real storefronts who exist just about everywhere.
The only way to defeat them is for no one to sign up for their services, which I honestly don't think will ever happen.
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flowersspooky
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Joined: May 27 2008 Posts: 46 |
![]() Posted: September 20 2008 at 5:39am |
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I don't believe it is the flowers shops who will ever break the 1-800's as long as we have people surfing the web and find it very easy to order that way. I had and order come in last Sat. afternoon for a funeral that had been that morning but with a delivery date of Fri the 19th on it. The guy had the nerve to say well just deliver it to a family memeber on Fri. the 19th. I said no you call your customer back and tell them you screwed up. Plus there was no family memeber to deliver it to as they all lived out of town. So we the florist look like the bad guy because we couldn't deliver it. But the customer doesn't understand that at all.
How many of you have had flowers drop shipped to your funeral home lately? Many funeral homes in this area just put the box out for the family and then they say where is the vase or what is this? I beleive we the REAL florist need to train people about these 1-800's and the bad job they do.
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Sandy
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Joined: April 16 2008 Location: United States Posts: 246 |
![]() Posted: September 20 2008 at 6:00am |
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I agree on education of the general public .... but also think we ourselves add to it when we sign up with places like 1-800 flowers.
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flowersspooky
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Joined: May 27 2008 Posts: 46 |
![]() Posted: September 20 2008 at 7:24am |
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They will find a shop somewhere to take it. A new shop who doesn't know any better or one who is hurting for work and money at that time.
I've turned down orders for 1-800's and shops from 15 miles away have filled the orders for them. Best part is nothing like what the order called for.
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sarracen
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Joined: April 23 2007 Location: United States Posts: 16 |
![]() Posted: September 24 2008 at 9:00am |
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I see two ways to take back our industry: Just don't fill the OG's orders, and the florists in Tennessee got a law passed that banned deceptive advertising regarding location on the internet. Most states have passed this for yellow pages, and it should be a quick fix to add the internet. Contact you legislators! |
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bloomz
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Ol Hippo Butt Joined: April 01 2005 Location: Mozambique Posts: 1528 |
![]() Posted: October 07 2008 at 4:48pm |
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They've passed it but can't enforce it.
Tom Meola's karma finally got him after way over 10 years.
He's now been replaced by Best Florist in Waukesha, Wi.
All you can do is think global act local, service your customers the best you can cuz trying to fight these guys or get florists together to do something (like boycott) is as productive as trying to push the river.
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My mind not only wanders - sometimes it doesn't come home at night!
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oldschool
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Joined: June 19 2008 Posts: 20 |
![]() Posted: October 11 2008 at 5:10pm |
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You are absolutely right Jon, Local Florists today will not come together to take back an industry of "professional flowers" even if you sit down and talk to them. ????...They only hear 'how I can undercut you'.
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nancy
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Joined: October 09 2009 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 61 |
![]() Posted: December 01 2009 at 4:00am |
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I usually prefer buying flowers from online florists as they offer affordable and timely delivery of fresh flowers.
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Doug Munro
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Joined: Today Location: Canada Posts: 1 |
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I just joined this board today as I was hoping that it would help me keep a better finger on the pulse of our industry. I have been a member of www.FlowerChat.com (use your spell check on this one so you get it right) for a number of years and find that all too often many of the membership are simply looking for someone else to blame for the failure or sales decrease of their business. The usual suspects tend to be the wire services or companies that they choose to designate as order gatherers. Often the talk focuses on the good old days or strategies to "take back the business for the florist". Unfortunately, the reality is too many individuals in this industry already have their own mind made up and simply do not want to be confused by the facts. Our industry (like so many other retail sectors) is going through a change that is occurring due mainly to leaps in technology and transportation. Changes that have to a huge degree empowered the retailer and consumer like never before. Unfortunately too many retail florists are reluctant to change, and fondly remember the good old days, sadly many of these are falling by the wayside. The same scenario has taken place in virtually every other business sector ( butchers, office supplies, travel, etc) so why would our industry feel it should be immune. As for educating the consumer.... The average consumer purchases flowers a couple of times a year, when they do they are looking for price and convenience generally. Do you really believe that you can educate them on our industry, or more important that they have any cares about wire services, order gatherers, or "Real Florists". If you plan on staying in business, forget about the old ways and start focusing on what changes you can make to satisfy and fulfill the wants and needs of today's consumers. The businesses that do this will be the victors, whether they be Wire services, order gathers, or "Real Florists". By the way after reviewing a number of threads on this board (including this one) I see that there is just as much finger pointing here as on Flower Chat........ Just my two bits. |
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